bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
    
 | | 08/30/2008 7:56 PM |
| Welcome to the semifinals for WBC 16.
To encourage more vote participation I'm going to give a random voter a custom repaint figure! If you are not sure what you are voting for, check out the stickied thread at top for WBC 16. At the end of the round I will chose one voter at random to win a hand painted DDM fig that will be previewed in the next few days. So MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!!
The top 4 competitors are:
Warband 2
Large Shadow Dragon 48
Astral Stalker 45
Babau 29
Drider 26
Drider 26
Deathjump Spider 11
Kuo-Toa Hunter 9
Darkmantle 6
Warband 3
Large Shadow Dragon 48
Astral Stalker 45
Digester 39
Drider 26
Rot Scarab Swarm 19
Deathjumpspider 11
Darkmante 6
Bat Familiar 6
Warband 11
Large Shadow Dragon 48
Astral Stalker 45
Nightmare 44
Umber Hulk Delver 36
Flame Snake 8
Boneshard Skeleton 7
Darkmantle 6
Bat Familiar 6
Warband 14
Ice Archon 66
Astral Stalker 45
Deathjump Spider 11
Deathjump Spider 11
Boneshard Skeleton 7
Darkmantle 6
Drider 26
Drider 26
The standings going into the top 4 were:
Player 3
Player 11
Player 2
Player 14
Pairings will be:
Table 1
Player 3 vrs Player 14
Table 2
Player 11 vrs Player 2
The match is 200 point assault playing on the Tomb of Queen Peragrine map.
Voting will be open until Sept 7th or possibly longer if we need more votes or to break a tie. The judge will NOT break any ties in the semi final or final matches. | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 08/30/2008 7:59 PM |
| Feel free to discuss the match ups as much as you like. I expect these to be some really tough games!
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OhGodtheRats
Warrior
187 Posts
| | 08/31/2008 1:02 AM |
| And the finale!
Table 1: My vote goes to player 3. Both are great warbands, but player 3 has more options, the AC advantage in a few match-ups, and a greater ability to hurt more targets at the same time than the opposition. Great game to watch, I'm sure.
Table 2: Player 11 takes the cake, trophy, or whatever. Player 11 just has too many mobility options & special abilities that take away the advantages of the enemy. | | | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
| | 08/31/2008 5:57 AM |
| Thanks bshugg, for getting this up! (And thanks for rewarding voters, that's a brilliant idea.)
Table 1: Player 14 wins
Table 2: Player 11 wins
Comments
That's a lot of Astral Stalkers and Large Shadow Dragons at the top two tables.
Table 1
At the first table, I think it appears rather obvious, at first, that Player 3 has the edge. But, the Ice Archon is not at all an easy piece to defeat. And, on this map, that piece's speed and ability to control the squares around it will pay off. Also, since there are two Driders in the band, the opponent's Large Shadow Dragon has to be cautious about its placement, which reduces its effectiveness. The Rot Scarab Swarm offers a serious threat to Player 14, but, I think that Player 14 can take care of it through careful play. It's not that I don't think this won't be close. Player 3 has a lot of damage output potential there. But, it's easy to overlook the Driders in both bands, and two of them is in fact a threat and the damage that they can generate isn't insignificant. But, in the end, I think that the Ice Archon will pay off here. And, besides, this is the only way to prevent a mirror match in the end.
Table 2
This is going to be a tough match as well. I think if it were played out a few times, we'd see each band winning a fair number of games. In round 4, Player 11 faced Player 2 and won 6-to-4 on Dragonshrine. I think that the maps aren't all that different. There are more early lines of sight on ToQP, but, once engagement happens, the two maps are rather similar. I would guess we'll see a similar outcome here.
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Lord_rock
Underboss
2019 Posts
Portland OR
| | 08/31/2008 7:27 AM |
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11 | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2637 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 08/31/2008 9:27 AM |
| Table 1: 14
Table 2: 11
Table 5: Disco Stu
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Board Rider
Skirmisher
47 Posts
| | 08/31/2008 11:17 AM |
| At table 1 I like warband 3. I really like the Ice Archon but think that the Shadow Dragon would render the piece as a minor distraction if/when it got it's enervated breath off.
Table 2 goes to warband 2. I maybe partial here but the Babu is an interesting piece and I just have never really liked the UB in skirmish play.
So: WB 3 and 2.
EDIT: I guess I am the only one who likes WB 2. Let's go Babu....do me proud!
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Fritz Stein
Skirmisher
4 Posts
| | 08/31/2008 2:56 PM |
| 14
11
Then again I could be wrong :)
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Tellian
Sneak
125 Posts
Germany
| | 08/31/2008 3:02 PM |
| 3
11
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relientKitten
Warrior
179 Posts
Portland, Oregon
| | 08/31/2008 6:46 PM |
| I played out Table 1 in Vassal and Warband 3 kicked 14's tail pretty quick. I'm going to run another game now that I'm more familiar with each piece's abilities and strengths/weaknesses, so don't count this quite as my vote, hehe.
Table 2 will happen, uh, eventually. XD | |
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jelzimme
49 Posts
| | 08/31/2008 9:04 PM |
| I really like the Astral Stalker, but it's less fun when there's so many of them...
Anyway:
Table 1:
I
like 14 for this one. I think the Ice Archon is great in this kind of
format, tough to kill, speedy and can put out some mean damage... And
there are enough synergies here that I think 14 just out-cohesions 3.
Deathjumps with the Stalker, Drider/Stalker with the Archon, Archon
with the Stalker, Drider's Fairy Fire. I think it's a great match, but
14 gets it in the end.
Table 2:
This one gets tough, but I
think mostly open map gives 2 enough of an advantage to pull it off. In
the end, I think the two Driders and Babau provide more of an advantage
than the Nightmare/Umberhulk combo, and I would expect the Deathjump to
make much more of an impression than all of 11's fodder put together...
Honestly, I would love to see this game played out a few times by a few
different players. I can see both of these bands played a few different
ways and think the matchup would be amazing.
So:
Table 1: 14
Table 2: 2
I'm on the Go Babau! team as well!
Interesting note: As posted the actual votes for table 1 are: 3, 14, 3, 14, 3, 14, 3, 14
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shandiris
Skirmisher
13 Posts
| | 08/31/2008 10:53 PM |
| Table 1: 14, synergies and the high AC on the archon give player 14 the edge.
Table 2: 2, the driders are quite good in this matchup.
Interesting btw, all underdark, all stalker, nearly all shadow dragon and nearly all driders. :P | | | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
| | 09/01/2008 8:26 AM |
| Posted By ShadowLord XT on 08/31/2008 9:27 AM
Table 5: Disco Stu
(Please someone get the reference) The Simpsons, season 7, episode 13.
Dave
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My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 09/01/2008 4:13 PM |
| Table 1 =
Player 3.
I think stalker & dragon combo is good enough with teh pther options to take the prize.
Table 3 =
I'm going with 2. Just.
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Wolfgang
Warlord
5742 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 09/02/2008 7:33 AM |
| Table 1 - 14
Table 2 - 2 | |
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jelzimme
49 Posts
| | 09/02/2008 7:44 AM |
| What kind of WBC 16 round would it be without a results table with wonderful, color-alternating rows?!
| After 11 votes: | | Match 1: | 3 | vs. | 14 | | | 5 | - | 6 | | Match 2: | 2
| vs. | 11
| | | 5 | - | 6
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IANKAVIK
Warrior
211 Posts
COLOMBIA
| | 09/02/2008 11:34 AM |
| | 3 and 11 | | | |
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The_Entropic_Wizard
Sneak
81 Posts
St Paul, MN
| | 09/02/2008 11:45 AM |
| 14 and 11
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Gohu
Sneak
80 Posts
| | 09/02/2008 6:23 PM |
| My vote
Table 1:
3
Table 2:
11
@jelzimme - your match are the other way around... ;-) | |
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Warleyn
Skirmisher
23 Posts
Mass.
| | 09/03/2008 2:25 PM |
| Match 1: 3
Match 2: 2
PLayed them out with a friend and that's how they finished.
(we each won 1)
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Wraithborne
Commander
4482 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 09/03/2008 5:55 PM |
| 14
2
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jelzimme
49 Posts
| | 09/04/2008 6:48 AM |
| | After 16 votes: | | Match 1: | 3 | vs. | 14 | | | 8 | - | 8 | | Match 2: | 2
| vs. | 11
| | | 7 | - | 9
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TheChuck
Warrior
333 Posts
Mississippi, USA
| | 09/04/2008 7:30 AM |
| Match 1: 3
Match 2: 2
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Redcap
Skirmisher
18 Posts
| | 09/06/2008 12:43 PM |
| 3 and 2. The drider has some nasty tricks.
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Bah! | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
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jelzimme
49 Posts
| | 09/06/2008 4:34 PM |
| Yeah, I'd say so!
| After 18 votes: | | Match 1: | 3 | vs. | 14 | | | 10 | - | 8 | | Match 2: | 2
| vs. | 11
| | | 9 | - | 9
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 09/06/2008 6:16 PM |
| How I will handle ties:
If either match is a tie, I i will extend the deadline of BOTH matches by one full day. This will continue until we don't have a tie on both or we hit the 14th. Then its sudden death tie breakers when a vote comes in we end it immediately.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 09/08/2008 5:11 AM |
| | going by jelzimme's math above, looks like we are on a 24 hour extension. | |
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thekidxii
Sergeant
464 Posts
No Yack. I said.. we need a DM not BM!
| | 09/08/2008 5:18 AM |
| 3
11 | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 09/10/2008 1:09 PM |
| And the kid's vote breaks it!
Finals thread going up soon. | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 09/10/2008 1:10 PM |
| so
11 to 8 band 3 wins
and in a squeaker,
9 to 10 band 11 wins. | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 09/10/2008 1:19 PM |
| The random winner is........
RelientKitten!!!
You will recieve a hand painted and based mini that is considered a good "tournament" piece as well. As soon as they are painted up I will be sending them out.
Email me your address at bshugg at Hotmail {dot} com.
Thanks! | |
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vanrulzz
Commander
2557 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 09/12/2008 10:10 PM |
| Table 1: Player 3
Table 2: Player 2 | | | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7670 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 09/15/2008 9:26 AM |
| ^
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Too late!
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