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javasquirrel
Skirmisher
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 | | 08/11/2008 3:30 PM |
| After surfing through (though I am sure not nearly long enough) the web I have found more Fan made 4th ed Bards then Barbarian's. Looking at it I have actually only found one fan Barbarian, which was well concieved but not what I was looking for. So after this, I am going to propose the following questions.
1) Are Bards really preferred over Barbarians?
2) If so why no love for the Barbarian?
3)Why do so many people want Bards?
4)Why do people want the Barbarian to be a paragon class or build for the fighter?
Just a couple of questions, and if you did happen to come across a barbarian build please post where. Still looking for one and can not really wait till March 09. | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 08/11/2008 4:55 PM |
| As a general answer, it's easier to Mod an existing class to be a Barbarian than to do the same for Bards.
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XAos
Underboss
2413 Posts
London
| | 08/12/2008 5:25 AM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 08/11/2008 4:55 PM
... it's easier to Mod an existing class to be a Barbarian than to do the same for Bards.
I doesn't get much easier than giving an existing 4e class a musical instrument;
And writting the the character sheet with the word "Bard" instead of "Warlord".
While the result is not exactly the same as a 3.5e bard. It's a great deal closer than other 4e classes
(e.g;) comparing a 3.5e Cleric with a 4e Cleric.
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Loquacious1
Sneak
61 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 08/12/2008 8:16 AM |
| Barbarians as paragon paths doesn't make sense. The concept of a barbarian is someone who was raised that way, not LEARNED to be that way--that would imply that they need to be availible in the heroic tier. You can structure a fighter as a barbarain; just wear Hide armor, use a two handed weapon like a greataxe, pick feats that imply recklessness and resilency like Toughness and Power Attack. Give yourself limitations for them; say that you have to use Power Attack when you become blooded, and must till the end of the encounter. That would imply a bloodlust style barbarain. Take the multi-class ranger feat for a bit more of a Nature flair, and gain the ability to single out the toughest opponent once per combat with your Hunter's Quarry--you can call it 'Barbarian's Challenge'.
As For the Bard, yes, the Warlord seems an obvious answer, but so, too, does the Cleric; they are both leaders, and the Cleric has range possibilities that the Warlord does not. You can say that the 'implement' used for the Bard is thier instrument (whatever that may be). You can have the different ranged abilities renamed to make more sense for you--'Lance of Faith becomes 'Reasonating Note' , "Sacred Flame' becomes 'Hymn of Renewal', etc. | | | |
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