dj-chuckles
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| Ok, no limit on dieties. We will not be using any said deities in the PHB or any campaign settings. I plan on making a list of all the deities by Alignment.
Deities must be very in depth.
The Golden Father:
LG
Domains: War, Law, Good, Strength, Fire, Sun
Favored Weapon: Halberd
The Silver Mother:
CG
Domains: Healing, Protection, Chaos, Good, Animal, Water
Favored Weapon: Sickle
The Rotting:
NE
Domains: Animal, Plant, Evil, Travel
Favored Weapon: Flail (Heavy or Light) | |
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Daunte
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
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| | 06/25/2006 7:33 PM |
| A place to keep track of what has been done so far with deities is very important as it allows other people to feed off the list and adapt them potentially for other kingdoms/adversarial purposes.
That being said you can't place a limit on "major" dieties until we define what a major is? Who gets to say theirs are major and aren't. The deities of the Pridelands I would not consider "major" IF we have deity politics as they are not very active that way, but they are major in that they are not weak deities.
How is major defined?
So I propose that we just post our deities here, how they work into areas as a place that collects them all together and once we start moving on and pulling the multiple areas of the world together into a coherent whole we can start to map out their structure. | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
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| | 06/25/2006 10:36 PM |
| From the Wemic thread. Deities bolded.
The Golden Father:
LG
Domains: War, Law, Good, Strength, Fire, Sun
Favored Weapon: HalberdThe Golden Father is depicted as the sun with a lions mane often times in art. He is the aggressor and outword strength of the Pridelands. He watches over from above as he speeds across the day sky. Though he does not often interefere in the daily lives of the Wemic, Golden Father loves his children and with pride shines down on their lives.
The Silver Mother:
CG
Domains: Healing, Protection, Chaos, Good, Animal, Water
Favored Weapon: SickleThe Silver Mother takes her power from the moon. She is mother to the animals of the plains and guardian and protector of the home. While the Golden Father protects the borders aggressivly the Silver Mother is a defender. She is often represented by the Moon with stars following behind as cubs. When she is full and shines off of the Silver Waters, it is the holiest day in the month. When the full moon is overcast it is considered a foul omen.
The Silver Mother is also reportedly the creator of the Ghostwise Halflings in the area who call their telepathy "moon speech." This relationship and shared area leads the Wemics to call the Ghostwise the "rak eimi" or "little brothers. (See Ghostwise)
The Rotting:
NE
Domains: Animal, Plant, Evil, Travel
Favored Weapon: Flail (Heavy or Light)
This vile force created the Hyena and Gnolls just to spite the Golden Father and Silver Mother. After his Gnolls were scattered by the Wemics and run deep into the Jungle he fell out of favor as a diety and was doomed to become nothing but a footnote in history. Recently though a powerful druid seeking great power over nature itself sought out old ruins of power and was able to combine himself with the ancient god. This "new" God had few followers but was able to recruit three powerful followers called the Blackmass and through their work has gained much power by regrouping the Gnolls and informing them of their past as well as dark deals with demons. This is now a formidable foe that has attracted much attention in divine realms that are in the know as his teachings seem to be spreading fast and beyond their jungle stronghold. The Rotting is clearly insane as his mind is that of a power sick druid combined with a possibly ageless deity.
Behind the Scenes:
Neither Diety in particular interferes with affairs much. This has led several scholars that have studied the religion and culture to feel that neither are true deities in any pantheon but instead aspects of nature personified in god form. This is made even more problematic by the fact that no other religions or canonical texts mentions them as deities. Whether this is true or not the scholars do note that this is not something to state to a Cleric or Paladin of either "god" as it is generally met with swift reprisal.
Creation Mythos:
In the darkness below there were primodial creatures, where these base animals came from noone knows. It wasn't until the Silver Mother found them that they became animals of the world. Silver Mother wanted play things for her cubs. Thus the first creation were the lower animals. Golden Father found these creatures weak, and they often did not have the capability to make it through the hot days, and even more probelmatic was the fact they could not survive attacks by the last of the primodial creatures, to defend them he created the Great Cats and to lead them the Lions and this was fine.
A dark day came though. A power known only as The Rotting had saw these creations in jealousy began to make his own. This began with the fell Hyena, but was soon transformed into the vile Gnolls of the Jungle. Though the Lions fought back they were in a difficult position to resist as these creatures hunted the Great Cats and began to dabble into dark magics. Seeing this approaching problem on their creation and how much it worried Silver Mother, to help guard and protect her animals she created a race of small spirits known as the Ghostwise. The spirits roamed the earth looking for bodies to inhabit and found those of a race called halflings. The spirits transformed these halflings, giving them the ability to speak with their minds. The Ghostwise then traveled to the Great plains to protect the animals there but were soon enslaved by the Gnolls. This upset Silver Mother greatly and her tears filled the Silver Waters now sacred to the Pride. Seeing this Golden Father raged, the sun shined down for three weeks straight they legend until he figured out what to do. Golden Father's answer was the Pride. Warriors strong and hardy that could defend the plains and the Great Cats from The Rotting's creatures.
The Pride lashed forth under great leaders, the Children of the Sun these five were called. They thundered across the plains and into the jungles and won the day, driving the Gnolls deep into the jungle and rescuing the enslaved Ghostwise. With this victory the Shadow was thought to be no more.
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Outside of game. Now, Golden Father and Silver Mother could be incarnations of other deities or deities themselves. Either way works. The Rotting I feel is 100% his own though.
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Random Sasquatch
Sneak
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| | 06/26/2006 1:14 AM |
| So...
There is a limit on "major deities"????
Only 12? | |
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dj-chuckles
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Random Sasquatch
Sneak
132 Posts
| | 06/26/2006 1:18 AM |
| No, I agree with you.
But are we creating only 12 "major" deities.
So, major deities are limited?
Is that correct? | |
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dj-chuckles
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MightyEinherjar
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| | 06/26/2006 1:33 AM |
| | The Germanic Region (name still pending, been real lazy with WotDQ and other events) would follow the Asgardian pantheon, just like Mulhurand follows the Egyptian pantheon. I don't know with it would leak to the other civilizations, but I would go with a strong no. | |
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Random Sasquatch
Sneak
132 Posts
| | 06/26/2006 1:37 AM |
| Not that its that big of a deal.
But, I tried to create a thread of "20 legendary heros" with a similar voting process and met complaints of people feeling alienated and there had only been 2 submissions.
Now we're creating "12 major deities", and thats cool? Don't get me wrong, limiting it to 12 major deities is a good idea. But, what if people start feeling alienated? | |
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Random Sasquatch
Sneak
132 Posts
| | 06/26/2006 1:43 AM |
| Also,
Using game mechanics (well look at the PHB) as a reference as to why major deites are being limited is (apparently) not an excuse.
(I tried to use this same arguement and it was ruled unacceptable) | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 06/26/2006 10:29 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Random Sasquatch
Not that its that big of a deal.
But, I tried to create a thread of "20 legendary heros" with a similar voting process and met complaints of people feeling alienated and there had only been 2 submissions.
Now we're creating "12 major deities", and thats cool? Don't get me wrong, limiting it to 12 major deities is a good idea. But, what if people start feeling alienated?
As I posted earlier, artificial limits aren't needed. Once the deities are listed by peoples areas we can start to collect them together and see where they fall.
Like ME said, his area will have its own small pantheon of Norse deities already, my guess is they will be very seperate from the list of others.
We don't have to have a "set" pantheon that all hang out FR style, these could just be a variety of deities and pantheons by area. The nature of religion varies. I already posted that to limit to 12 "major" requires a definition of major. There is no limit as of now, they will be sorted and defined later. As for the people not posting, alot of people may not have their deities designed yet. Some areas the gods will be more intregal, others less so, and thus will be placed at different parts of the design process.
I haven't posted in the Heroes thread because I don't understand the need for it. Are these supposed to be area heroes? Legendary dead heroes? I think that heroes will come out more as the stories are written and the areas are fleshed more out and just the artifical creation of heroes for heroes sake leads to twinkdom and a de-emphasis on player action with an increased emphasis on NPC action. | |
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orcdoubleax
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| | 06/26/2006 12:22 PM |
| | Zohran only has one god. "AKIM" More information on it will be in the template submission on Thrusday. I do not think it would be worship outside Zohran at all. | |
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orcmonk220
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| | 06/26/2006 2:11 PM |
| | The Githzerai of the Plains of Clarity take to worship no God, yet mean no ill feeling towards any of them or their followers. | |
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Venport
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The Sahuagin only beleave in 3 gods
"He who is eaten" The God of what is hunted, a needed god, also thought to be the one you created the land walkers.
"He who eats" The god of power and the hunt. Every male feels a close tie to "he who eats" and feels that he must live to acheave it;s destructive nature
"She who teaches" The god of knowlage worshiped by weomon and the only god to grat sahuagin Cleric spells. Every Sahuagin knows that "she who teaches" is infirrior to "he who eats" but know that she is a powerful god
These three gods are not Major gods for the rest of the world. However it would be cool to make 3 gods for the rest of the world that could fit these ideas but other races call them by different names, give a chacnce for a holy war. | |
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Daunte
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| | 06/26/2006 7:13 PM |
| | OK, to quell some of the uprising. We are not limiting anything as of yet. We are still getting idea's and seeing what everyone wants. Setting hard limits on things just makes people get annoyed. If we get 100 different gods/dieties, not there not all going to be major, but we will figure out which are and are not when the time comes. | |
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Venport
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| | 06/26/2006 7:55 PM |
| | I think it would be awsome if there were only 10 Gods. But each Culture looked at Each of them Differently and had different names for each one... This could cause Some great issues between the nations in our new world... And yet creature some bonds from some others. | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 06/26/2006 8:12 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Venport
I think it would be awsome if there were only 10 Gods. But each Culture looked at Each of them Differently and had different names for each one... This could cause Some great issues between the nations in our new world... And yet creature some bonds from some others.
That is a solid view and one that often works (its how Eberron uses Gods) but due to the multi-creater nature Im not sure if it will work for this world. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/29/2006 4:37 AM |
| The Dragon Isles are a bit odd for theology. The people tend to worship the dragons. The dragons tend to worship themselves [:D]
I'm working on fleshing out the dragons more, and there will be at least two deities. I don't particularly care how many deities exist in the world. Artificial limits can be great, but when a collective project is developed in hydra fashion, artificial limits tend to stifle creativity.
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gordonboom
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| | 09/28/2006 5:39 AM |
| Can I help on this at all? I can see if I have any of my old notes from the realm I was designing a few years back. I think I had 6 deities fleshed out for it.
If you want it let me know and I will look this weekend when I am off.
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Random Sasquatch
Sneak
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| | 10/04/2006 8:03 PM |
| I plan on making a true neutral god of travelers and luck in a couple of days here.
I'm also toying with the idea of a Chaotic Evil insectisoid god (intermediate god) and a Lawful Evil god of "games of chance." Hopefully I'll be able to get some adventurers to wager their souls. | |
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