 Knight of Wuzz Wuzzard
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 | | 10/26/2007 9:57 PM |
| I was at my FLAGS today, so I was browsing the D&D books that I don’t own. Now, I realize there are way more books than I will ever own, but I like to look nonetheless. There was a new one I hadn’t seen before. I don’t recall the exact name, something like “Dungeon & Dragon Adventures”. It was hard bound and had a sleek black cover reminiscent of the classy re-issues of the PHB and the DMG. I picked it up to take a look and what shocked at how light weight it was. In fact, it was so thin I assumed that I had picked up a damaged copy, that somehow the cover had torn off. Alas, it was the entire book, all of about 20 pages of it. What was the content? Basically, each page was akin to a full page ad for one of the other books, with a short paragraph of text. Oh, I thought, a funky marketing flyer disguised as a book that they probably give away. No, nothing of the sort. On the back cover was the retail price, $19.99. Now, I realize the dollar has fallen relative to the Euro, but...
Is this old news? I haven't been browsing in a while. Was that book really meant to be sold? Now the 30 yrs of D&D coffee table book looked interesting by comparison.
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 Knight of Wuzz Wuzzard
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 | | 10/26/2007 10:23 PM |
| I found it online. It’s called “Dungeon Survival Guide.” It is 64 pages. (I guess I meant it felt like it was about 20 sheets of paper inside the covers.) Okay, it has 32 sheets of paper. OMG! It’s really being sold for $19.99. There’s not even any randomly generated ‘crunch’ in it, and only a smidgen of fluff. Mostly it’s just art. It seems to only fill a niche of ‘explaining’ to someone what D&D is. Yet, why not a smaller brochure (take one they’re free) at the store counter? I guess this is what they mean about getting rid of the stuff that’s not fun. The prospects of a good 4th edition are looking rather slim, literally. | | | |
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realmaster Underboss
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 Home of the 2002 Winter Olympics
 | | 10/27/2007 12:02 AM |
| quote from the sept. review of the dungeon survival guide:
Last month, you got a look at the back cover text from this 64-page illustrated guide to dungeon adventuring. As I mentioned, this book is aimed at novice adventurers interested in the world of fantasy, wizards, knights, dragons, and monsters -- this is, for all intents and purposes, a companion to Practical Guide to Dragons and Practical Guide to Monsters. When you get a look inside, you'll understand a little more of what you can expect -- an almost nostalgic look at the history of D&D 's dungeons, with an entertaining spin for the curious and newly interested. Take a look at the Introduction. these books do not have gaming info in them, they are for beginners to read about the game. I almost bought this thinking it was a conversion of the AD&D dungeoneers survival guide. | | Thanks, realmaster. Let's split up!!!!!
RIP Gary Gygax 1938-2008
Unhallowed vindicated champion: van richten Successful trades:72 Trades in progress:0 Have issues with:1 burning_kazuki Bad trades:0 | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
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 Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 10/29/2007 9:05 AM |
| Posted By realmaster on 10/27/2007 12:02 AM I almost bought this thinking it was a conversion of the AD&D dungeoneers survival guide. That might actually have been useful. Oh well....
| | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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realmaster Underboss
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 Home of the 2002 Winter Olympics
 | | 10/30/2007 1:28 AM |
| | I would have bought it if it was. | | Thanks, realmaster. Let's split up!!!!!
RIP Gary Gygax 1938-2008
Unhallowed vindicated champion: van richten Successful trades:72 Trades in progress:0 Have issues with:1 burning_kazuki Bad trades:0 | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
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 Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 10/30/2007 10:08 AM |
| | Me too | | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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vanrulzz Commander
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 | | 10/30/2007 5:13 PM |
| Posted By realmaster on 10/30/2007 1:28 AM I would have bought it if it was.
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 10/31/2007 1:41 PM |
| I still have the dungeoneers survival guide.
I almost bought this on amazon, but this thread has set me straight. w00t!!
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
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 The Red Light District
 | | 11/01/2007 4:00 AM |
| I was at my FLGS yesterday and as soon as I walked in, Emmitt was like, "Check out this lame new book we got in. We're never gonna be able to sell these." It was the Dungeon Survival Guide. | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/01/2007 8:08 AM |
| Well at least it's usable with 4th edition. 
It seems like we've got a few of these art books recently. There was a dragon one released not too long ago wasn't there? | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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 Knight of Wuzz Wuzzard
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 | | 11/01/2007 8:46 AM |
| | Makes me think that a lot of somethings are not firing on all cylinders over at the WOTC compound. | | | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/01/2007 8:53 AM |
| | See I fiugred they had quite a few people choosing art on those polls of theirs. Somone at WizHQ must have sugested let's just release some Art books then. | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 11/01/2007 10:03 AM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 11/01/2007 8:08 AM Well at least it's usable with 4th edition.  It seems like we've got a few of these art books recently. There was a dragon one released not too long ago wasn't there?
There was a dragon book, but if it's the one I'm thinking of, it had some decent fiction in them, and they were set in a variety of settings (including one in the Magic 'verse.)
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/01/2007 2:54 PM |
| | The Dragon book I remeber was a thin hardbound book, not too expensive I think. It just covered the evil Chromatic and good Mettalic dragons. | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 11/02/2007 10:44 AM |
| This one? http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndant/957477200
  | | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/02/2007 10:52 AM |
| | No, this was an older book I think. | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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nyjastul69 Commander
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/02/2007 1:18 PM |
| Nope, try again.   I did try a product search on the Wotc website, putting in Dragon gets quite a few results... I'm pretty sure the book is at least a year old, maybe older. It's a very thin hardcover and it was under $20. | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 11/02/2007 2:54 PM |
| I'd bet that's the one, it was part of the Knights of the Silver Dragon series, wasn't it?
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/05/2007 11:05 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 11/02/2007 2:54 PM I'd bet that's the one, it was part of the Knights of the Silver Dragon series, wasn't it?
Yup, that's the very one. LCS gets the Stan Lee noprize!
| | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 11/06/2007 8:01 AM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 11/05/2007 11:05 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 11/02/2007 2:54 PM I'd bet that's the one, it was part of the Knights of the Silver Dragon series, wasn't it?
Yup, that's the very one. LCS gets the Stan Lee noprize! 'nuff said
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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jacksonm Warlord
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 River City
 | | 11/06/2007 8:12 AM |
| | No prizes.... I miss good Marvel Comics..... sigh.... | | | |
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PaSquall Underboss
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 | | 11/06/2007 10:08 AM |
| | Hey Cthulhufnord, nice avatar ! I love this movie (one of the very few I like watching once in a while). | | Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON (Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/06/2007 10:42 AM |
| Posted By PaSquall on 11/06/2007 10:08 AM Hey Cthulhufnord, nice avatar ! I love this movie (one of the very few I like watching once in a while). Thanks it's one of my favorites too. I think many of my early Vtm games were partialy inspired by Big Trouble.
| | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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MuscledDestroyer Sergeant
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 Prospect Park, Pa
 | | 11/09/2007 8:44 PM |
| | Are we discussing the rip off book at the stores right now? The one where you pay to see the advertisements for adventures. I would never burn a book but I really thought about that one. | | Champion of Grape Juice. Its delicious. | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 11/09/2007 9:36 PM |
| Posted By MuscledDestroyer on 11/09/2007 8:44 PM Are we discussing the rip off book at the stores right now? The one where you pay to see the advertisements for adventures. I would never burn a book but I really thought about that one. Well that must be their clever marketing sceme then. You have to buy the book to burn it after all. 
| | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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MuscledDestroyer Sergeant
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 Prospect Park, Pa
 | | 11/10/2007 8:35 AM |
| | Ha Ha! | | Champion of Grape Juice. Its delicious. | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 11/13/2007 11:20 AM |
| This doesn't make me optimistic for the upcoming preview books.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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