 Lead Moderator LCS Underboss
 1928 Posts




 | | 09/06/2007 12:46 AM |
| Wizard Entertainment (the folks who put on Wizard World and publish a group of comic and toy related magazines) announced that they won't be publishing Inquest Gamer any longer.
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/inquest/005740098.cfm
The last issue is the September Issue, #150... which means we won't actually see the Desert of Desolation article/preview that was intended to be in the next issue #151. 
DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: CURSE OF THE DESERT OF DESOLATION
• Get your first look at D&D Minis’ return to the Desert of Desolation. But beware: Our digging has turned up more than just some preview figs. Can you solve the mysterious curse and win a fabulous D&D prize package? Find out in October.
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 13089 Posts



 Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 09/06/2007 4:30 AM |
| Let me guess, it's going digital. *rolleyes*
Sarcasm aside, that's too bad. I enjoyed Inquest back in the day. | | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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jacksonm Warlord
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 River City
 | | 09/06/2007 7:10 AM |
| | I will certainly miss the minis previews. | | | |
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Dordledum Commander
 3463 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 09/06/2007 10:07 AM |
| Ok, let me guess, SCRYE is next?
D. | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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Sirohk Commander
 3938 Posts



 USA
 | | 09/06/2007 4:10 PM |
| Say it ain't so.Â
Another sad day for the world of gaming.Â
And someone help us if it is another magazine to goes "on-line".Â

| | Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone Knight of the Rahshasa's And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 13089 Posts



 Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 09/07/2007 3:37 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 09/06/2007 10:07 AM Ok, let me guess, SCRYE is next?
D. Probably. I still miss The Duelist.
| | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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ransom Sneak
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 | | 09/07/2007 6:45 AM |
| Renew my subscription to Dragon Mag----Cancelled Renew my subscription to Dungeon Mag----Cancelled Renew my subscription to Inquest Gamer---CANCELLED?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I would take my money and get a subscription to Scrye but this year it seems like I have a curse on me. | | | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 09/07/2007 8:34 AM |
| Posted By ransom on 09/07/2007 6:45 AM Renew my subscription to Dragon Mag----Cancelled Renew my subscription to Dungeon Mag----Cancelled Renew my subscription to Inquest Gamer---CANCELLED?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I would take my money and get a subscription to Scrye but this year it seems like I have a curse on me.
Hmm..... Do it man. It's the only way to be sure.  | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7908 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 09/07/2007 1:32 PM |
| Sad, they were a good read.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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 JohnnyFive Warrior
 207 Posts




 | | 09/12/2007 7:48 AM |
| | Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on? | | Champion of the Elf Duskblade | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
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 Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 09/12/2007 8:16 AM |
| Posted By JohnnyFive on 09/12/2007 7:48 AM Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on? Certainly looking that way isn't it. Not just bathroom, it's anytime you don't have ready computer access. Sad.
| | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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lalato Underboss
 1546 Posts



 Urbana, IL
 | | 09/12/2007 11:09 AM |
| Posted By jacksonm on 09/06/2007 7:10 AM I will certainly miss the minis previews. Funny thing about htos previews. How many people actually went out and bought the magazine when there was a preview? Not many I warrant. Most people were too cheap and waited for someone to post the preview here or Hordelings or on the WotC site.
So yeah... the previews were nice and the magazine was a good read, but you can't make money if people are just scanning your stuff and giving it away for free.Â
Oh well. Such is the nature of people. We want, but we're never willing to pay.
--sam
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nyjastul69 Commander
 2731 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 09/12/2007 11:14 AM |
| Posted By ransom on 09/07/2007 6:45 AM Renew my subscription to Dragon Mag----Cancelled Renew my subscription to Dungeon Mag----Cancelled Renew my subscription to Inquest Gamer---CANCELLED?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I would take my money and get a subscription to Scrye but this year it seems like I have a curse on me.
Well at least I have an individual to blame now. ;) | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 09/12/2007 6:26 PM |
| Posted By JohnnyFive on 09/12/2007 7:48 AM Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on?
Already done... | | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Kaya Kenobi Underboss
 1304 Posts



 San Jose, California
 | | 09/13/2007 5:13 PM |
| Posted By lalato on 09/12/2007 11:09 AM Posted By jacksonm on 09/06/2007 7:10 AM I will certainly miss the minis previews. Funny thing about htos previews. How many people actually went out and bought the magazine when there was a preview? Not many I warrant. Most people were too cheap and waited for someone to post the preview here or Hordelings or on the WotC site. So yeah... the previews were nice and the magazine was a good read, but you can't make money if people are just scanning your stuff and giving it away for free. Oh well. Such is the nature of people. We want, but we're never willing to pay. --sam On the same note, people will find ways to distribute the online mags for free. Anyways, for myself, I am sick of all this digital BS. I liked my mags because I could read them anytime I wanted to. Now if I want my mags, I'm going to have to buy a computer. No thanks.
| | Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley! I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else. http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 12507 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 09/13/2007 9:59 PM |
| Posted By JohnnyFive on 09/12/2007 7:48 AM Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on?
My thoughts exactly. The world's changing too fast for me. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 13089 Posts



 Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 09/14/2007 3:45 AM |
| | For me, it's not a matter of the world changing too fast, it's people making choices I can't influence and don't agree with. | | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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Kaya Kenobi Underboss
 1304 Posts



 San Jose, California
 | | 09/14/2007 8:14 AM |
| Posted By Ghendar on 09/14/2007 3:45 AM For me, it's not a matter of the world changing too fast, it's people making choices I can't influence and don't agree with.
Wonder how many customers they're going to be losing with all this garbage?
Personally, I thought MTGO was going to flop because of it being digital cards and such... What keeps it going? | | Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley! I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else. http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 13089 Posts



 Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 09/14/2007 8:51 AM |
| Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 09/14/2007 8:14 AM Posted By Ghendar on 09/14/2007 3:45 AM For me, it's not a matter of the world changing too fast, it's people making choices I can't influence and don't agree with. Wonder how many customers they're going to be losing with all this garbage?
Unfortunately, not enough to make a difference.
To use Dungeon & Dragon magazines as an example...they KNOW that they can potentially reach many more people using an e-zine rather than a paper magazine. They know full well that they have pissed off us print fans but we don't matter to them anymore because they know they can make more money by offering the magazines electronically. They know that those of us who won't buy into DI is a drop in the bucket.
I don't wish to see WotC fail, I just want DI to fail so they will go back to print. That's unlikely though. | | WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :( I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220 G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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Kaya Kenobi Underboss
 1304 Posts



 San Jose, California
 | | 09/14/2007 9:04 AM |
| | But they could make more money by offering both up for grabs. Instead they just ditch the paper mags because it's free to go digital. | | Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley! I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else. http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7908 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 09/15/2007 7:36 AM |
| Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 09/14/2007 9:04 AM But they could make more money by offering both up for grabs. Instead they just ditch the paper mags because it's free to go digital.
No, they couldn't make more by offering both. They probably wouldn't sell enough print copies to pay the printing costs. You have to mass produce for printing to be worth it, and they would have drastically lower print runs with DDI. | | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Kaya Kenobi Underboss
 1304 Posts



 San Jose, California
 | | 09/17/2007 5:17 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 09/15/2007 7:36 AM Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 09/14/2007 9:04 AM But they could make more money by offering both up for grabs. Instead they just ditch the paper mags because it's free to go digital. No, they couldn't make more by offering both. They probably wouldn't sell enough print copies to pay the printing costs. You have to mass produce for printing to be worth it, and they would have drastically lower print runs with DDI.
Not with the possible thousands that would prefer the print over digital.
And it's not completely true about printing costs, as it costs about a quarter to make each mag (digital, it will be only an one-time cost.) It costs 8 cents to make the San Fransico paper, and it goes to about 75,000 people. And that doesn't include all the extras, and then the web based paper... How many people in America alone would prefer the paper quality? I would assume that in Dragon/Dungeon, 60% of the people will go to digital, while 40% will dump it altogether. I for one hate computers, and I will not read a web-based magazine. Especially since the web-based magazine will cost exactly the same as the paper one. Paizo did offer the web based mags, and the prices were exactly the same. | | Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley! I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else. http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
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Nobody Important Sergeant
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 | | 09/29/2007 10:37 AM |
| | We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely. | | | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7908 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 09/30/2007 10:01 AM |
| Posted By Nobody Important on 09/29/2007 10:37 AM We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely.
It still could. Some parts may be dow, but you can still play without the internet. There will be plenty of people who do.
But as this site proves, why not have a few more options for gaming? How much DDM community would there be without the internet?
That's all I see it as, incorporating technology as an option to include in your gaming. | | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Kaya Kenobi Underboss
 1304 Posts



 San Jose, California
 | | 10/03/2007 7:08 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 09/30/2007 10:01 AM Posted By Nobody Important on 09/29/2007 10:37 AM We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely. It still could. Some parts may be dow, but you can still play without the internet. There will be plenty of people who do. But as this site proves, why not have a few more options for gaming? How much DDM community would there be without the internet? That's all I see it as, incorporating technology as an option to include in your gaming. Yeah,
an option will be wonderful. But what they're doing is forcing us to
either use the net and pay the same prices, or just do what I do. Not
buy into it.
| | Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley! I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else. http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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nyjastul69 Commander
 2731 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 10/05/2007 7:28 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 09/30/2007 10:01 AM Posted By Nobody Important on 09/29/2007 10:37 AM We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely. It still could. Some parts may be dow, but you can still play without the internet. There will be plenty of people who do. But as this site proves, why not have a few more options for gaming? How much DDM community would there be without the internet? That's all I see it as, incorporating technology as an option to include in your gaming.
They're not just including additional e-content. The e-content is actually repacing current print elements of the game.  I suspect more, not less, material will be replaced before 4e goes live. | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10493 Posts


 United States
 | | 10/06/2007 6:59 PM |
| We're never going to get to the whole Star Trek kind of future where everything is electronic if we keep hanging onto things like physical dice and books though. Someone has to make the big sacrifice.

Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Kaya Kenobi Underboss
 1304 Posts



 San Jose, California
 | | 10/09/2007 4:28 AM |
| | I wouldn't be opposed to digital only media, it saves trees. However, if they're going to charge the same price as the paper version, I'm out. I've got better things to spend my money on. | | Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley! I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else. http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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Kaya Kenobi Underboss
 1304 Posts



 San Jose, California
 | | 10/09/2007 5:15 AM |
| hmm...
Actually, Inquest is dead, totally.. | | Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley! I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else. http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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 JohnnyFive Warrior
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 | | 10/11/2007 10:49 AM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 10/06/2007 6:59 PM We're never going to get to the whole Star Trek kind of future where everything is electronic if we keep hanging onto things like physical dice and books though. Someone has to make the big sacrifice.  Dave
Games? Done completely electronically!? You're positively mad, sir!! =P | | Champion of the Elf Duskblade | |
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vanrulzz Commander
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5132 Posts



 SLC, UT
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| Next on FOX....When Luddites Attack XXIII  | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7908 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 10/24/2007 1:14 PM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 10/23/2007 11:03 PM Next on FOX....When Luddites Attack XXIII 
Ooh, Tivo!!
I guess we'll see how much the net is really required in a few months. I would bet it's like Halo. You can play it on your own, but really, a lot more fun out on the web.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5132 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 10/25/2007 8:34 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 10/24/2007 1:14 PM Posted By zenthrus on 10/23/2007 11:03 PM Next on FOX....When Luddites Attack XXIII  I guess we'll see how much the net is really required in a few months. I would bet it's like Halo. You can play it on your own, but really, a lot more fun out on the web. I find Halo to be the most fun over LAN (16 players, 4 TVs, all in one room: more trash talk than Jerry Springer could handle...ah, bliss ).
| | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 10/31/2007 1:42 PM |
| Sop true. We run it over three rooms, so there's a lot of yelling to interrupt others sleeping and whatnot.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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