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09/06/2007 12:46 AM  

Wizard Entertainment (the folks who put on Wizard World and publish a group of comic and toy related magazines) announced that they won't be publishing Inquest Gamer any longer.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/inquest/005740098.cfm


The last issue is the September Issue, #150... which means we won't actually see the Desert of Desolation article/preview that was intended to be in the next issue #151.

DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: CURSE OF THE DESERT OF DESOLATION • Get your first look at D&D Minis’ return to the Desert of Desolation. But beware: Our digging has turned up more than just some preview figs. Can you solve the mysterious curse and win a fabulous D&D prize package? Find out in October.

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09/06/2007 4:30 AM  
Let me guess, it's going digital. *rolleyes*

Sarcasm aside, that's too bad. I enjoyed Inquest back in the day.

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09/06/2007 7:10 AM  
I will certainly miss the minis previews.

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09/06/2007 10:07 AM  
Ok, let me guess, SCRYE is next?

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09/06/2007 4:10 PM  

Say it ain't so.Â

Another sad day for the world of gaming.Â

And someone help us if it is another magazine to goes "on-line".Â




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09/07/2007 3:37 AM  
Posted By Dordledum on 09/06/2007 10:07 AM
Ok, let me guess, SCRYE is next?

D.

Probably. I still miss The Duelist.

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09/07/2007 6:45 AM  
Renew my subscription to Dragon Mag----Cancelled
Renew my subscription to Dungeon Mag----Cancelled
Renew my subscription to Inquest Gamer---CANCELLED?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I would take my money and get a subscription to Scrye but this year it seems like I have a curse on me.


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09/07/2007 8:34 AM  
Posted By ransom on 09/07/2007 6:45 AM
Renew my subscription to Dragon Mag----Cancelled
Renew my subscription to Dungeon Mag----Cancelled
Renew my subscription to Inquest Gamer---CANCELLED?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I would take my money and get a subscription to Scrye but this year it seems like I have a curse on me.


Hmm.....  Do it man.  It's the only way to be sure.

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09/07/2007 1:32 PM  
Sad, they were a good read.

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09/12/2007 7:48 AM  
Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on?

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09/12/2007 8:16 AM  
Posted By JohnnyFive on 09/12/2007 7:48 AM
Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on?

Certainly looking that way isn't it. Not just bathroom, it's anytime you don't have ready computer access. Sad.

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I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM

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09/12/2007 11:09 AM  
Posted By jacksonm on 09/06/2007 7:10 AM
I will certainly miss the minis previews.

Funny thing about htos previews.  How many people actually went out and bought the magazine when there was a preview?  Not many I warrant.  Most people were too cheap and waited for someone to post the preview here or Hordelings or on the WotC site.

So yeah... the previews were nice and the magazine was a good read, but you can't make money if people are just scanning your stuff and giving it away for free.Â

Oh well.  Such is the nature of people.  We want, but we're never willing to pay.


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09/12/2007 11:14 AM  
Posted By ransom on 09/07/2007 6:45 AM
Renew my subscription to Dragon Mag----Cancelled
Renew my subscription to Dungeon Mag----Cancelled
Renew my subscription to Inquest Gamer---CANCELLED?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I would take my money and get a subscription to Scrye but this year it seems like I have a curse on me.


Well at least I have an individual to blame now.  ;)


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09/12/2007 6:26 PM  
Posted By JohnnyFive on 09/12/2007 7:48 AM
Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on?


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09/13/2007 5:13 PM  
Posted By lalato on 09/12/2007 11:09 AM
Posted By jacksonm on 09/06/2007 7:10 AM
I will certainly miss the minis previews.

Funny thing about htos previews.  How many people actually went out and bought the magazine when there was a preview?  Not many I warrant.  Most people were too cheap and waited for someone to post the preview here or Hordelings or on the WotC site.

So yeah... the previews were nice and the magazine was a good read, but you can't make money if people are just scanning your stuff and giving it away for free.Â

Oh well.  Such is the nature of people.  We want, but we're never willing to pay.


--sam

On the same note, people will find ways to distribute the online mags for free. Anyways, for myself, I am sick of all this digital BS. I liked my mags because I could read them anytime I wanted to. Now if I want my mags, I'm going to have to buy a computer. No thanks.

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09/13/2007 9:59 PM  
Posted By JohnnyFive on 09/12/2007 7:48 AM
Does this mean I'll have to buy a laptop for my bathroom, so I'll have something to read from now on?


My thoughts exactly.  The world's changing too fast for me.

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09/14/2007 3:45 AM  
For me, it's not a matter of the world changing too fast, it's people making choices I can't influence and don't agree with.

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09/14/2007 8:14 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 09/14/2007 3:45 AM
For me, it's not a matter of the world changing too fast, it's people making choices I can't influence and don't agree with.


Wonder how many customers they're going to be losing with all this garbage?

Personally, I thought MTGO was going to flop because of it being digital cards and such... What keeps it going?

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09/14/2007 8:51 AM  
Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 09/14/2007 8:14 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 09/14/2007 3:45 AM
For me, it's not a matter of the world changing too fast, it's people making choices I can't influence and don't agree with.


Wonder how many customers they're going to be losing with all this garbage?



Unfortunately, not enough to make a difference.

To use Dungeon & Dragon magazines as an example...they KNOW that they can potentially reach many more people using an e-zine rather than a paper magazine. They know full well that they have pissed off us print fans but we don't matter to them anymore because they know they can make more money by offering the magazines electronically. They know that those of us who won't buy into DI is a drop in the bucket.

I don't wish to see WotC fail, I just want DI to fail so they will go back to print. That's unlikely though.

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G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM
I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM

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09/14/2007 9:04 AM  
But they could make more money by offering both up for grabs. Instead they just ditch the paper mags because it's free to go digital.

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09/15/2007 7:36 AM  
Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 09/14/2007 9:04 AM
But they could make more money by offering both up for grabs. Instead they just ditch the paper mags because it's free to go digital.


No, they couldn't make more by offering both. They probably wouldn't sell enough print copies to pay the printing costs. You have to mass produce for printing to be worth it, and they would have drastically lower print runs with DDI.

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09/17/2007 5:17 PM  
Posted By Teflon Jeff on 09/15/2007 7:36 AM
Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 09/14/2007 9:04 AM
But they could make more money by offering both up for grabs. Instead they just ditch the paper mags because it's free to go digital.


No, they couldn't make more by offering both. They probably wouldn't sell enough print copies to pay the printing costs. You have to mass produce for printing to be worth it, and they would have drastically lower print runs with DDI.


Not with the possible thousands that would prefer the print over digital.

And it's not completely true about printing costs, as it costs about a quarter to make each mag (digital, it will be only an one-time cost.) It costs 8 cents to make the San Fransico paper, and it goes to about 75,000 people. And that doesn't include all the extras, and then the web based paper... How many people in America alone would prefer the paper quality? I would assume that in Dragon/Dungeon, 60% of the people will go to digital, while 40% will dump it altogether. I for one hate computers, and I will not read a web-based magazine. Especially since the web-based magazine will cost exactly the same as the paper one. Paizo did offer the web based mags, and the prices were exactly the same.

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09/28/2007 7:14 PM  
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09/29/2007 10:37 AM  
We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely.

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09/30/2007 10:01 AM  
Posted By Nobody Important on 09/29/2007 10:37 AM
We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely.


It still could. Some parts may be dow, but you can still play without the internet. There will be plenty of people who do.

But as this site proves, why not have a few more options for gaming? How much DDM community would there be without the internet?

That's all I see it as, incorporating technology as an option to include in your gaming.

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Posted By Teflon Jeff on 09/30/2007 10:01 AM
Posted By Nobody Important on 09/29/2007 10:37 AM
We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely.


It still could. Some parts may be dow, but you can still play without the internet. There will be plenty of people who do.

But as this site proves, why not have a few more options for gaming? How much DDM community would there be without the internet?

That's all I see it as, incorporating technology as an option to include in your gaming.

Yeah, an option will be wonderful. But what they're doing is forcing us to either use the net and pay the same prices, or just do what I do. Not buy into it.

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Posted By Teflon Jeff on 09/30/2007 10:01 AM
Posted By Nobody Important on 09/29/2007 10:37 AM
We used to be able to say that our hobby should survive an EMP but that is looking less and less likely.


It still could. Some parts may be dow, but you can still play without the internet. There will be plenty of people who do.

But as this site proves, why not have a few more options for gaming? How much DDM community would there be without the internet?

That's all I see it as, incorporating technology as an option to include in your gaming.


They're not just including additional e-content.  The e-content is actually repacing current print elements of the game.   I suspect more, not less, material will be replaced before 4e goes live.Â



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10/06/2007 6:59 PM  
We're never going to get to the whole Star Trek kind of future where everything is electronic if we keep hanging onto things like physical dice and books though. Someone has to make the big sacrifice.



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10/09/2007 4:28 AM  
I wouldn't be opposed to digital only media, it saves trees. However, if they're going to charge the same price as the paper version, I'm out. I've got better things to spend my money on.

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10/09/2007 5:15 AM  
hmm...

Actually, Inquest is dead, totally..

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10/11/2007 10:49 AM  
Posted By Vrecknidj on 10/06/2007 6:59 PM
We're never going to get to the whole Star Trek kind of future where everything is electronic if we keep hanging onto things like physical dice and books though. Someone has to make the big sacrifice.



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Games?  Done completely electronically!?  You're positively mad, sir!! =P

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10/23/2007 11:03 PM  
Next on FOX....When Luddites Attack XXIII

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Posted By zenthrus on 10/23/2007 11:03 PM
Next on FOX....When Luddites Attack XXIII


Ooh, Tivo!!

I guess we'll see how much the net is really required in a few months. I would bet it's like Halo. You can play it on your own, but really, a lot more fun out on the web.

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Posted By Teflon Jeff on 10/24/2007 1:14 PM
Posted By zenthrus on 10/23/2007 11:03 PM
Next on FOX....When Luddites Attack XXIII
I guess we'll see how much the net is really required in a few months. I would bet it's like Halo. You can play it on your own, but really, a lot more fun out on the web.
I find Halo to be the most fun over LAN (16 players, 4 TVs, all in one room: more trash talk than Jerry Springer could handle...ah, bliss ).

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10/31/2007 1:42 PM  
Sop true. We run it over three rooms, so there's a lot of yelling to interrupt others sleeping and whatnot.

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